Comments on: JOOMLA! Word Association and Semantics http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/ Web Design and Development Training and Tutorials Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:18:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Louis Landry http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Louis Landry Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:19:24 +0000 http://beautyindesign.com/?p=254#comment-49 It would depend upon the change implemented :) Text strings are easy, filesystem paths and database table names are harder. All depends on the ideas. It would depend upon the change implemented :) Text strings are easy, filesystem paths and database table names are harder. All depends on the ideas.

]]> By: Rick http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Rick Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:43:10 +0000 http://beautyindesign.com/?p=254#comment-48 Implementing a change in the 1.X line would render lots of existing extensions useless, no? Implementing a change in the 1.X line would render lots of existing extensions useless, no?

]]> By: Louis Landry http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Louis Landry Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:12 +0000 http://beautyindesign.com/?p=254#comment-47 Changing mambots to plugins was one of my first commits to the core. It was a big deal, but the changes to the way the events system worked were more substantial and far-reaching than the name. Changing something like components would obviously have some far-reaching effects, but that does not mean we shouldn't consider it. I doubt that it is something we could really do in the 1.x series... but then again if you come up with a good idea... and present it well... its amazing what can be done :) Changing mambots to plugins was one of my first commits to the core. It was a big deal, but the changes to the way the events system worked were more substantial and far-reaching than the name. Changing something like components would obviously have some far-reaching effects, but that does not mean we shouldn’t consider it. I doubt that it is something we could really do in the 1.x series… but then again if you come up with a good idea… and present it well… its amazing what can be done :)

]]> By: Rick http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Rick Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:53:16 +0000 http://beautyindesign.com/?p=254#comment-46 Yeh Rob mentioned changing the terminology is more than just changing a word. I didn't even think about how it could actually affect the API. Cheesh, was it a nightmare changing mambots to plugins?! I, too, think of components as "sub-applications", much like Facebook has applications. From the different systems I've worked with, Joomla and Wordpress have the best naming conventions out there! Yeh Rob mentioned changing the terminology is more than just changing a word. I didn’t even think about how it could actually affect the API. Cheesh, was it a nightmare changing mambots to plugins?! I, too, think of components as “sub-applications”, much like Facebook has applications. From the different systems I’ve worked with, Joomla and WordPress have the best naming conventions out there!

]]> By: Louis Landry http://beautyindesign.com/blog/joomla-word-association-and-semantics/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Louis Landry Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:21:26 +0000 http://beautyindesign.com/?p=254#comment-45 Your reasoning is sound, but we already have the concept of applications within Joomla. The Site is an application, the Installer is an application and the Administrator is an application. I have always sort of looked at the components as sub-applications though obviously that probably wouldn't serve to "unglaze" your clients' eyes. We do take a lot of time in thinking about our semantic naming and I really would love to see a brainstorm on what other potential better names may exist for components. Good thoughts. Your reasoning is sound, but we already have the concept of applications within Joomla. The Site is an application, the Installer is an application and the Administrator is an application. I have always sort of looked at the components as sub-applications though obviously that probably wouldn’t serve to “unglaze” your clients’ eyes.

We do take a lot of time in thinking about our semantic naming and I really would love to see a brainstorm on what other potential better names may exist for components.

Good thoughts.

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